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11/25/14 09:01 AM #914    

Shayne Maree Schuller (Morgan Sledge)

"Intrepid Traveler" is what we put on my brother's gravestone.

He explored geographical worlds, athletic and intellectual worlds,artistic and spiritual dimensions with a sense of German intensity and Irish humor.


11/25/14 10:25 AM #915    

 

Bruce Wilson

Thanks are due to Dale "trumpeteer" Butterfield's brother for digging back into the archives for the lobster photo. Stay tuned there may be more to follow.

You have indeed won the contest Ms. Sledge, but nepotism rules prevent you getting the prize. On the bright side, it wasn't much of a prize anyway (a raggedy copy of The "Good Morning" Teaspoon).

All photographic evidence seems to have disappeared, so this'll  (sounds like thistle) have to do:

The Teaspoon eventually merged with Door to Liberation and the Teaspoon-Door eventually became just The Door. (Parenthetically, none of this comes from Danny Schweers, but is in fact due to my own diligent research, though I bet Mr. Schweers could tell us some equally interesting things about the Texas underground press if he was interested).

 

Say Hi to Percy for us.

 

 


11/27/14 12:08 AM #916    

Shayne Maree Schuller (Morgan Sledge)

Nepotism is relative whether you're on the bus or off the bus...


11/29/14 11:15 PM #917    

 

Bruce Wilson

Not certain, but it does seem to be related to whether you're on Highway 49 or 61 and who is driving the bus.

 



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Just to muddy up the waters some. Speaking (or writing) relatively (or reverently), as long as you watch your step you'll be sittin' on top of the world.

Not supersititious, but this guy struck out.

 

 

 

 

 


11/30/14 06:03 PM #918    

 

Bruce Wilson




12/01/14 04:14 AM #919    

Linda L. Keating (Keating)

 

Hi Everyone out there in Message Forum-Land, 

    So many great photo's/links/comments, etc.,...Nice work,,

Super-excellent work all around from everyone out there. -- 

Continually appreciate all the heart & soul & time & energy 

you ALL are contributing to this amazing Message Forum. -- 

 

 


12/01/14 05:38 AM #920    

Linda L. Keating (Keating)

December 1, 2014

Good morning.

Thank you to ALL of you for your many sublime comments, photo's, posts, poetry,,,etc. that I am beginning to catch up with today due to my computer finally being up & running again after an almost 2 month break of not having any at home convenient access to Message Forum. - So am now immensely enjoying reading all of your posts & links that I missed  during October-November,.. & am also so happy to find out from recently reading Karen Savel's message on the Forum that this site will be continuing for now. - That is great news! - Thank you again to all the 'powers that be' for making this awesome connection possible. - Really appreciate everyone.- Nice to know ya! - So grateful to have been in such remarkable company &  to have the opportunity to meet & to know so many wonderful, encouraging, inspiring, thoughtful, amazing, talented & extraordinary people.- Truly thankful to know so many of you who after all these years still continually delight & surprize all of with so much kindness & goodness & I really just want you to all know that I truly appreciate you. --

All the best.

Sincerely, Linda L. Keating

 


12/01/14 06:24 AM #921    

Linda L. Keating (Keating)

                                                               If 

                                           by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

 

If you can keep your head when all about you 

    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, 

    But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

    Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, 

Or being hated don't give way to hating,

    And yet dont' look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master,

    If you can think -- and not make thoughts your aim,

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

    And treat those two imposters just the same;

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken

    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,

    And stoop and build 'em up with worn out tools;

If you make one heap of all your winnings

    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

And lose and start again at your beginnings,

    And never breathe a word about your loss:

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

    To serve your turn long after they are gone,

And so hold on when there is nothing in you

    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

    Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,

If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,

    If all men count with you, but none too much:

If you can fill the unforgiving minute

    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,

Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, 

    And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!


12/01/14 06:59 AM #922    

Linda L. Keating (Keating)

                                                                 Waiting

                                                by John Burroughs (1837-1921)

 

Serene I fold my hands and wait,

    Nor care for wind nor tide nor sea;

I rave no more against time or fate,

   For lo! my own shall come to me.

I stay my haste, I make delays --

    For what avails this eager pace?

I stand amid the eternal ways

    And what is mine shall know my face.

Asleep, awake, by night or day,

  The friends I seek are seeking me,

No wind can drive my bark astray

    Nor change the tide of destiny.

What matter if I stand alone?

    I wait with joy the coming years;

My heart shall reap what it has sown,

    And garner up its fruit of tears.

The waters know their own, and draw

    The brook that springs in yonder height;

So flows the good with equal law

     Unto the soul of pure delight.

The stars come nightly to the sky;

    The tidal wave unto the sea;

Nor time, nor space, nor deep, nor high,

    Can keep my own away from me.


12/01/14 08:35 AM #923    

 

Terry Lee Maple

Linda's posting of the poem "If" gave me pause. I was introduced to this poem, as I recall, in junior hall school, perhaps by Mr. Hanson. I memorized the poem for speech class and later received a nice pen and ink calligraphy of the poem that Jeanie Booth gave me. I kept that on my bulletin board for years. With all the trials and tribulations of a young athlete, wondering how to deal with triumph and defeat, it centered me over and over again. I felt the same way about the poem "In Flanders Fields" which was such a moving tribute to the greatest generation of our parents. Thanks, Linda, I'm still trying to keep my balance when things go awry.


12/01/14 01:34 PM #924    

 

Gail Nisbet (Sutherland)

I just want to say how great it's been to read about the lives of those I spent many early years of my life surrounded by. Thanks to all who have posted. Our parents were a great generation and it stands to reason that they raised up a great generation, albeit, we had it much easier.
Thanks, Linda, for the timely and timeless poems. No matter what age we were or are, they hit home.
So nice to see everyone at the reunion. Both events were priceless.

12/01/14 04:28 PM #925    

 

Bruce Wilson

If you graduated from HHS in '64, then everything in my last post is older than you. That's Michele's mom and dad (the guy who not too subtely warned "you better leave my daughter alone" back in the day).

The pan is my father's and I'm guessing it to be close to 75. In addition to being a "nose to the stone" family of paper and box boys, recreation leaders,  library workers and lawyers, we were a "meat and potatoes" family.

I can still see and hear my dad mashing up potatoes in that pan with one of those old-fangled mashers (why ours didn't survive while the pan did is a mystery to me). I think the Marvelettes did a song about it.

I do not remember Mr. Hanson and that poem.  I do  remember him as somewhat stern, but he did crack one once about not chewing gum in his class because he was armed with a great gum-detector.

Speaking of aging, has anybody had to deal with cataracts yet? Apparently my time has come.

 

Oh wait, I think I just found it. Just kidding. This one was for sale on the internet, could not find the price that it went for.

 

 

 

 

 

 


12/02/14 01:56 AM #926    

 

Gail Nisbet (Sutherland)

My dad was the great potatoe masher in our family. I still have his masher with the red painted handle somewhat peeling. I have used it over the years but due to weakened wrists, I opted for electric mixer this past Thanksgiving. Dad was probably shaking his head at me. It looks like your picture Bruce. If I had a techy brain or an ounce of energy, I'd take a pic. May get to it another time...gotta learn this tablet I just got...love typing on it.

12/02/14 07:23 AM #927    

 

Terry Lee Maple

This nostalgia for family objects is a wonderful thing. I recently acquired from my cousin in Alabama the yellow pyrex bowl that my dear grandma Maple used to contain her scrumptious, world class, mustard-based potato salad. The bowl and her salad were family heirlooms. I will always remember cold fried chicken and potato salad while dining at the Chula Vista park on family picnics, and the exciting trips the whole family took (grandama and salad in tow) to the San Diego Zoo. In those days you could take a picnic lunch into the zoo. What memories and what a great start (although I didn't know it at the time) to my career in animal behavior. How fortuitous that my wife Addie makes her own world class potato salad, no mustard but yummy just the same. The honored bowl is used for our New Year's dinner of honey baked ham and potato salad.


12/02/14 12:38 PM #928    

 

Bruce Wilson

For all you surf history buffs out there. From San Diego UT 8/30/2008. This is one of the photos from the link I posted ealier. Sadly, John has since passed away. I will finish this up later.

 

 


12/02/14 12:46 PM #929    

 

Bruce Wilson

Now that Terry has acquired the appropriate equipment, I'm sure he'll be bringing a heaping big order of that potato salad to the next get together. I'll bring either mashed potatoes or The Marvelette, one.

 

Little known fact, but Michele was actually known as The Fifth Marvellete. She  was shy then, just like back in high school (have I mentioned that she is no longer so shy?) so there appears to be no photographic record.

 

 


12/02/14 12:50 PM #930    

 

George Bracey Gillow

CATARACT SURGERY

Concerning Bruce's question about cataracts:  Pam and I have had surgery in both eyes and all went well.  The procedure takes about 20 minutes.  They give you drops now to numb the eye instead of shots.  So it is a fast and easy procedure.

The one negative is that you have to wear reading glasses.  The implants cannot adjust to distance like a natural lens.  However they do make bifocal implants.  But they are expensive and I think wearing reading glasses is a better way to go.

Back in the 1950s or so it was a very difficult operation and required days of not moving the head.  Now it is easy.

Cataract surgery was one of the best things that happened to me.  I was very nearsighted.  I really wanted to go to one of the Merchant Marine Academies when I was in High School.  But I discovered that they required 20/50 uncorrected and I was way over 20/100.

Now I am 20/15 and qualify for the California Maritime Academy.  They are a Cal State University and no longer require being an unmarried male under 20 for admission.  So I told Pam that I can go, get a Captains license and we both could work on a cruise ship.  Me as Captain and she as cruise director. 

But she said she could also go to the Academy.   I did some work at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, a few years ago, and there was a woman student there who was 65 years of age. Her son was also a student.

Incidentally, if any of you have children or grand children who love the sea, the California Maritime Academy is a great place to get an education.  They have an over 95% hiring rate for graduates.

Most of the graduates from the California Maritime Academy make more money than graduates from the Naval Academy or US Coast Guard Academy.  I heard that one young lady got a job as a mate on a tanker at starting salary of $80,000/year. This was in about 1995.

Another neat thing is that students spend the summers on their training ship TS Golden Bear.  It travels all over the pacific.

Cal Maritime's website is:  www.csum.edu.

Pam driving the Love Boat (Pacific Princess) in about 1986 off of the Coast of Mexico.

About the Same Timeframe on Passenger Freighter SS Santa Maria (Video of this ship on my website www.gillow.com)

(OK, so they were on automatic pilot)


12/02/14 03:01 PM #931    

 

George Bracey Gillow

California Maritime Academy

In my last post, I mentioned that if any of you had children or grand children who loved the sea then they should consider the California Maritime Academy.

Below are some videos.   The company I worked with had a contract with with Cal Maritime on development of their computer based maritime simulators.  These were for ship handling, engine room --including a steam engine-- radar and oil spill simulators.

There are also other academies.  These include Texas, Maine, New York and Massachusetts state academies.  There is a Federal Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point New York.  It requires a congressional appointment just like Annapolis and West Point.

Here is a video of the training ship TS Golden Bear:



 

This one is of the simulation system at Cal Maritime.  Capt. Vic Schisler was a Jacobsen Pilot (Long Beach) until he retired and went to work at Cal Maritime.  I worked with him at the pilot organization to develop highly accurate GPS portable systems for harbor pilots.




12/02/14 05:53 PM #932    

 

Gail Eileen Dillon (Boone)

Hi Everyone -- I love reading the poetry that several of you have posted.  I taught US and world history for 35 years, and whenever I taught about World War I I had my students memorize "In Flanders Fields," since I had learned it at my mother's knee and always liked it.  I have had many former students, now well into adulthood, tell me they still remember and appreciate all the memory work I had them do.  It of course conformed to my own preferences and prejudices and I picked things I loved.  One of those was "Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening," and here's a SPOILER ALERT for those of you who will never be able to get this out of your head... It syncs perfectly with the tune to "Hernando's Hideaway."  Sorry if you'll never appreciate Frost again. . .


12/02/14 06:02 PM #933    

 

George Bracey Gillow

CHULA VISTA HISTORIC HOME TOUR--2011

The YouTube video below of the 2011 Chula Vista Historic Home Tour is from Corinne McCall who was part of the tour.  She is a member of the Chula Vista Historic Homeowners Group. The video is of a slide show that Corinne used to present to the Chula Vista City Council and other groups.

These are some of the Chula Vista people shown in the presentation.  The numbers, on the right, represent the time of the particular frame/picture--shown in lower left of the YouTube frame:

  • .28--  SD County Supervisor Greg Cox (CVHS '66), CV Mayor Cheryl Cox (HHS '66).
  • .31 -- Carlos Fox (historic home owner), Carroll Fleming. 
  • .35 -- Left Three: CV Councilman Rudy Ramirez, Mayor Cox, and CV Councilwoman Pamela Bensoussan (She owns a historic home.).
  • .44 -- Bud Wilson, nephew of the late Congressman Bob Wilson.
  •   .49    Corinne McCall, sister Suzy and friend.
  • 1.16    Corinne's sisters Nancy Holiman, and Julianne McCall.
  • 1.23  Frank Roseman--co-author of CV historic books with Peter Watry. ( His daughter Ann was in our HHS 64 class.).
  • 2.08  Cheryl Cox with her father John Willet.
  • 2.16    Corinne McCall in 1970's garb.
  • 2.53    Corinne's  sisters: Julianne, Jill (she is the one who had the encounter with the notorious "Johnny the Sheik".), Suzy, and Judy (McDougle) Barney, and friend.
  • 3.14    Glenda (Hubbard) Devaney (CVHS "59), Peter Watry (co-author of CV historic books), Corinne McCall counting money.

Here is the presentation on YouTube:



 

 

 

 

 


12/02/14 06:52 PM #934    

Corinne McCall

Hi George -

Thank you posting this!  I also enjoyed your interesting posts on the Ca.Maritime Academy!!

Thank you for all your posts that have helped to keep the forum interesting.  I would also love to hear any stories from our other classmates about how their families came to live in CV....  best to all, Corinne

 


12/02/14 09:17 PM #935    

 

Bruce Wilson

Here's the rest of the surfing history. I think everything but the photos is in the lnk posted back a ways.

 

 


12/02/14 09:24 PM #936    

 

Bruce Wilson

Corinne:

My father was enticed by Rep Bob Wilson, who served with him in the Army, to move to San Diego (from Washington) where his first job was as Assistant District Attorney for San Diego. My family was living in National City (826A Roosevelt Avenue) when I was born in the Chula Vista Hospital*.

As you are aware, we moved shortly thereafter to Chula Vista at my insistance, so that I couild be closer to you.

The rest as they (who are they?) say is history.

broken heart

 

 

*This is more significant than it might at first seem. For example, when issued the standard gang challenge "where you from sa?", I somtimes become tongue tied (National .. er ... Chula ... er ... Otay).

 

 


12/02/14 10:26 PM #937    

Corinne McCall

Bruce - the correct answer is Varrio Chula Vista (VCV), that is unless you are from rival Otay. (You learn these things when you have kids here in CV).  When my daughter Katie was at BVHS they called her Guerita...

I don't remember any gangs when we were growing up - just car clubs like the Park Rats.  There was one guy from Otay - don't remember his name - who smoked marijuana.  Or so it was rumored...


12/03/14 07:50 AM #938    

 

Terry Lee Maple

While there may not have been visible ganps, there were entourages for major players. In Junior High, Frank had an entourage. As his friend and neighbor I sometimes joined them downtown but I was a goody-two-shoes so I had to be careful not to get involved in any mayhem. Bill Burger had a large entourage as I recall. I also recmember those nights at the gym dances when National City would arrive for a rumble in the park. People would be enlisted by word-of-mouth to go out and meet them. These were hit and run jobs but normally no weapons were involved. I wouldln't call these encounters as organized gang fights but more like mob scenes. The closest we came to terror by gangs were the fights that resulted when Castle Park kids were bussed to our school (Hilltop Drive School) for a few months while their new school was under construction. These kids challenged us on a daily basis for no good reason and they seemed to be organized. Later, when we were bussed to Castle Park Junior (while our new school was under construction) they continued to bully us. I befriended the largest black kid at Castle Park who shared my locker in first period gym, At 5'9" and 234 pounds he was quite a specimen and seemed to deter his peers from picking on me. On our homeroom football team (McClure/Maple), I always made sure he got the ball from time to time so he was happier to block for me. In high school football, in Castle Park's first year, I spent the game carrying out fakes into the middle of the line, landing in the prominent belly of my now 300 pound oppoonent, Biff McClure. He was kind not to crush me.


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